{"id":7057,"date":"2017-12-16T01:54:28","date_gmt":"2017-12-16T09:54:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/?p=7057"},"modified":"2017-12-16T01:54:28","modified_gmt":"2017-12-16T09:54:28","slug":"roben-kampiljo-ljudi-poput-makrona-i-trampa-misle-da-se-epidemija-aids-a-zavrsila","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/roben-kampiljo-ljudi-poput-makrona-i-trampa-misle-da-se-epidemija-aids-a-zavrsila\/","title":{"rendered":"Roben Kampiljo: Ljudi poput Makrona i Trampa misle da se epidemija AIDS-a zavr\u0161ila"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nisam neki obo\u017eavalac ceremonija. Bio sam u Kanu, verovatno \u0107u morati i na dodelu Cezara i mo\u017eda Oskara, vide\u0107emo. Ja pre svega \u017eelim da prika\u017eem svoj film.<\/p>\n<p>Va\u017enije mi je da sretnem distributere, selektore festivala kao \u0161to je Merlinka, publiku&#8230; Ali ovde sam i zato \u0161to film govori o AIDS-u. To nije tema koja je toliko zastupljena u va\u0161oj zemlji. Trudim se da idem u zemlje poput Ukrajine, Slovenije, koje je epidemija jako pogodila. Radije idem na takva mesta nego na dodele nagrada, obja\u0161njava u razgovoru za Danas reditelj Roben Kampiljo za\u0161to je protekli vikend proveo u Beogradu, gde je na festivalu Merlinka prikazan njegov film &#8220;120 otkucaja u minuti&#8221;, a ne u Berlinu, gde je dobio nagradu Evropske filmske akademije za najbolju monta\u017eu i bio nominovan za najbolji evropski film.<\/p>\n<p>Njegovo ostvarenje, koje je od danas i na redovnom bioskopskom repertoaru, bavi se 90-im godinama 20. veka kada grupa pariskih aktivista u okviru pokreta Act Up poku\u0161ava da skrene pa\u017enju na epidemiju virusa HIV-a koja vlada. Film, koji je rasplakao Pedra Almodovara, nagra\u0111en je Gran prijem na Kanskom festivalu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* Za\u0161to vam je bilo va\u017eno da se ovom temom bavite danas? Film govori o 90-im godinama&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Snimio sam ovaj film u trenutku kada sam mogao da ga snimim. Kada sam imao dovoljnu distancu prema doga\u0111ajima i kada sam mogao da ponovo pro\u0111em kroz sva ta se\u0107anja i emocije. To je bilo jako te\u0161ko. Ali bilo mi je va\u017eno da se bavim ovom temom jer sam u toku procesa rada shvatio da ti mladi glumci, mladi gej momci, ne znaju mnogo toga o epidemiji i svemu \u0161to se tada de\u0161avalo. Imam ose\u0107aj da je svet podeljen na dva dela. Imate zemlje kao \u0161to je Francuska, gde postoje terapije i preventivni programi, pa su ljudi zaboravili \u0161ta se doga\u0111a, jer imaju utisak da bolest uop\u0161te vi\u0161e ne postoji. A imate i zemlje gde ljudi nemaju neophodne lekove, i gde se ne govori dovoljno o bolesti. Mislim da se i u jednom i u drugom primeru ti\u0161ina vra\u0107a, ravnodu\u0161nost se vra\u0107a&#8230; To je jako \u010dudno, jer je medicina u Francuskoj toliko uznapredovala da mo\u017eemo da govorimo, ne ba\u0161 o kraju epidemije, ali o njenoj kontroli. Ali, ako ne obuhvatimo ceo svet, bez dostupnih i \u010dak besplatnih lekova, Evropa \u0107e morati da se suo\u010di sa novom borbom. \u010cudan je trenutak i treba nam neko politi\u010dko vo\u0111stvo u tome, koje danas ne postoji, jer ljudi poput Makrona i Trampa misle da se epidemija zavr\u0161ila. Ali nije gotovo, jer i dalje ima mnogo obolelih \u0161irom sveta. Treba nam ne\u0161to da nas prodrma da shvatimo to. Nadam se da film mo\u017ee da pomogne u tome. Pomogao je malo u Francuskoj. Nadam se da \u0107e ga videti mnogo vi\u0161e ljudi ba\u0161 zbog toga.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* \u0160ta mislite, za\u0161to se 90-ih kinematografija nije bavila ovom temom kada je epidemija bila u jeku? Osim &#8220;Filadelfije&#8221; kao najpoznatijeg filma na tu temu, ali i jednog od retkih&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Bilo je nekoliko filmova. Ali oni ba\u0161 dobri nisu bili deo mejnstrima. Postoji film &#8220;Silverlake Life: The View from Here&#8221;, koji jako volim, ali koji je dokumentarac. Imam ose\u0107aj da je postajala ravnodu\u0161nost u na\u0161im dru\u0161tvima jer je bolest ubijala ljude sa margine &#8211; gej mu\u0161karce, seksualne radnice, zatvorenike, narkomane&#8230; LJude nije bilo briga. Postojao je strah. Mogu da govorim o gej zajednici. Tu ljudi nisu pri\u010dali o tome jer su se pla\u0161ili, tako da je njihova ti\u0161ina i ravnodu\u0161nost ostatka dru\u0161tva stvorila stvarnost u kojoj je bolest bila svugde i nigde istovremeno. Zato je Act Up i stvoren. Taj pokret nije trebalo samo da uka\u017ee politi\u010darima i farmaceutskim kompanijama da se ne bave svojim poslom kako treba. Trebalo je probuditi i gej zajednicu. Da ih natera da progovore. To je veliki problem. Ako mi ne po\u010dnemo da pri\u010damo o tome, dr\u017eava to ne\u0107e u\u010diniti za nas. To je bilo va\u017eno.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* Film predstavlja va\u0161e iskustvo vezano za organizaciju Act Up i sve \u0161to se doga\u0111alo u Francuskoj. \u0160ta je bila va\u0161a ideja sa kojom ste po\u010deli da pi\u0161ete scenario?<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"bannerBox fullWith center\"><\/div>\n<p>&#8211; Act Up se pojavio nakon deset godina epidemije i deset godina ti\u0161ine. Mi smo prekinuli ti\u0161inu. Bilo je to jedno sme\u0161no mesto. Tu smo slavili jer smo svi zajedno i jer smo mogli da pri\u010damo o raznim temama. Za mene je najva\u017enije bilo da stvorim kontrast izme\u0111u scena u kojima se debatuje. Gde vidite bele sobe bez prozora u kojima se ljudi sva\u0111aju i raspravljaju&#8230; Ali zbog mo\u0107i njihovih re\u010di, koje stvaraju slike, vidimo i napade na farmaceutske ku\u0107e, politi\u010dare&#8230; S druge strane, vidimo pojedince, sve te likove. Mi u Francuskoj to zovemo film reka, kao roman reka. Svi ti likovi su uhva\u0107eni u toku. Delite njihove perspektive jedno vreme, a zatim prelazite na drugi lik. Tu je i ljubavna pri\u010da. Pomalo je nasumi\u010dan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* Taj na\u010din pripovedanja podse\u0107a na Marsela Prusta&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Prust je govorio da je pi\u0161u\u0107i \u017eeleo da napravi katedralu. Da je njegov stil blizak arhitekturi. Ne bih sebe poredio s Prustom i mo\u017eda nisam prave\u0107i ovaj film stvorio katedralu, ali mo\u017eda jesam jedan stan. (smeh) Svi\u0111a mi se ta ideja da je film blizak arhitekturi i vremenu. Za mene je srce filma njegov ritam.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* Deo tog ritma su kontrasti koje ste spomenuli. Pa tako u filmu vidimo tragediju tog vremena, ali i radost&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Postoji obja\u0161njenje za\u0161to homoseksualce nazivamo gejevima. Razlog za to je teatarska distanca izme\u0111u stvarnosti i kako je \u017eivimo. Mislim da svi gejevi znaju da igraju odre\u0111enu ulogu. Verovatno vi\u0161e nego heteroseksualci. Morate da glumite ne\u0161to kada ste &#8220;u ormaru&#8221;. Hteo sam da govorim o toj teatarskoj poziciji, koja je vrlo ozbiljna. To je kao crni humor kojim smo hteli da \u0161okiramo ljude. Zato \u0161to smo se pla\u0161ili, mi smo od sopstvenog straha pravili viceve. To nam je bilo neophodno kako bi pre\u017eiveli i prihvatili tu epidemiju bore\u0107i se protiv nje. I sam naslov, koji je referenca na haus muziku tog vremena&#8230; Mi smo bili jako dobri u hedonizmu. Voleli smo da izlazimo, da u\u017eivamo, da se zabavljamo&#8230; zato \u0161to smo bili jako mladi. Zato smo mislili da ta situacija nije fer, jer smo hteli da pre\u017eivimo kako bi nastavili da se zabavljamo. Ne volim \u010dinjenicu da mnogo ljudi misle da je politika povezana sa ozbiljno\u0161\u0107u. Mislim da moramo da postanemo deca da bi bili dobri politi\u010dari. Ne obrnuto. Ne volim to nametanje da odgovorno pona\u0161anje podrazumeva i odrastanje.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* Da li mislite da se ne\u0161to promenilo poslednjih godina u na\u010dinu na koji kinematografija tretira gej osobe i kvir teme, mo\u017eda i sa Oskarom za &#8220;Mese\u010dinu&#8221;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Mislim da jeste. Shvatio sam da mi je mnogo ljudi nakon Kana reklo da je film jako dobar jer je gej, ali je istovremeno veoma univerzalan. Hteo sam da im odgovorim da su oni ti koji su postali univerzalni, a ne moj film. Moj film je veoma gej. On govori o gej zajednici. Nisam poku\u0161ao da ga popravim za va\u0161e o\u010di, mo\u017eda vam se tako \u010dini jer ste vi sad otvoreniji nego pre 25 godina. Ali \u0161ta to zna\u010di? Ako govorite o \u017eenama, to nije univerzalna tema, ako govorite o mladoj slepoj devojci koja \u017eivi u Saudijskoj Arabiji, to nije univerzalna pri\u010da. Mislim da su se ljudi promenili. Kada sam snimio svoj prethodni film &#8220;Eastern Boys&#8221;, na francuskom posteru bila su dva momka. Moj distributer mi je rekao da kada vidi poster, ne \u017eeli da pogleda film. Odgovorio sam mu da je glup, da treba da otvori svoj um, da njegova odluka da ne ide u bioskop da gleda gej momke kako imaju seksualne odnose nema veze sa tim \u0161to je strejt. Ali nisu samo gej mu\u0161karci manje zastupljeni na filmu. Tu su i druge manjinske zajednice. Migranti, muslimani&#8230; Ali zaista mislim da ve\u0107i problem imaju \u017eene sa predstavljanjem na filmu nego gej mu\u0161karci. Moramo da stvorimo evropsku kinematografiju ispo\u010detka. Da pome\u0161amo glumce, lokacije&#8230; To je va\u017eno. Mislim da su na\u0161e kinematografije previ\u0161e nacionalizovane. Tek smo na po\u010detku ispravljanja stvari, ali i to je dobro, jer pre 20 godina nismo bili nigde.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Izvor: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.danas.rs\/kultura.11.html?news_id=365080&amp;title=Ljudi+poput+Makrona+i+Trampa+misle+da+se+epidemija+AIDS-a+zavr%C5%A1ila\">Danas<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nisam neki obo\u017eavalac ceremonija. Bio sam u Kanu, verovatno \u0107u morati i na dodelu Cezara i mo\u017eda Oskara, vide\u0107emo. Ja pre svega \u017eelim da prika\u017eem svoj film. 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