{"id":6882,"date":"2017-12-01T03:26:07","date_gmt":"2017-12-01T11:26:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/?p=6882"},"modified":"2017-12-01T03:26:07","modified_gmt":"2017-12-01T11:26:07","slug":"intervju-filmska-opera-o-hiv-aktivizmu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/intervju-filmska-opera-o-hiv-aktivizmu\/","title":{"rendered":"Intervju: Filmska opera o HIV aktivizmu"},"content":{"rendered":"

Francuski film \u201e120 otkucaja u minuti\u201c, koji \u0107e biti prikazan na Merlinka festivalu 9. decembra, je dirljiva istorijska drama zasnovana na li\u010dnim iskustvima scenariste i re\u017eisera, Robina Campilloa, sa grupom aktivista ACT UP (AIDS Coalition To Unleash Power<\/em>) u Parizu devedesetih godina. Dramati\u010dna upotreba jezika i slika, i teatralne politi\u010dke akcije ACT UP-a, poput pokrivanja obeliska u Parizu ogromnim roze kondomom 1993, bilo je ono \u0161to ih je karakterisalo u kvir pokretu. \u201e120 otkucaja u minuti\u201c, koji je osvojio Gran pri na Kanskom filmskom festivalu prikazuje svakodnevna delanja grupe. Film je sa\u010dinjen od sastanaka ispunjenih suprotstavljenih ideja, pucanja prstiju i neprijateljskog siktanja, a tako\u0111e su prikazane akcije i stradanja nekih \u010dlanova i, izme\u0111u svega toga, rejvovi puni ekstaze i razuzdani seks. Centralna radnja ipak pripada romansi izme\u0111u dvojice momaka: Nejtana (Arnaud Valois), HIV negativan, i prgavog \u0160ona (Nahuel P\u00e9rez Biscayart), HIV pozitivan. Razgovarali smo sa re\u017eiserom, kao i sa dvojicom zvezdi, o njihovim \u017eivotima, devedesetim i dubokom utisku koji je ostavio ovaj muzikalni film.\"\"<\/p>\n

Arno, skoro sam pro\u010ditala da se povla\u010di\u0161 iz glume. Za\u0161to?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Arnaud Valois:<\/strong> Bio sam pomalo razo\u010daran svojim prvim iskustvima sa bioskopom. Bio sam u poslu 3-4 godine, gde sam \u010dekao telefonski poziv za ne\u0161to veliko obavljaju\u0107i sitne uloge. Onda, sa 25 godina, rekao sam sebi: \u201eU redu. Ovo ne ide, pa hajde da probam ne\u0161to drugo\u201c. Oti\u0161ao sam na Tajland i nau\u010dio thai masa\u017eu u Bangkoku za 3 meseca. Vratio sam se u Pariz sa diplomom za znanje thai masa\u017ee i zapo\u010deo biznis u pariskom studiju. U isto vreme me je Robinova agentkinja za audicije pozvala i pitala da li jo\u0161 uvek glumim, na \u0161ta sam odgovorio da ne. Zatim me je pitala da odem na audiciju za film koji ona priprema, \u0161to sam odbio.<\/p>\n

Zaista?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Arnaud Valois: <\/strong>Da. To je za mene bilo gotovo. Ali onda mi je ona objasnila o \u010demu se radi na projektu i koja se tematika pokriva. Rekao sam: \u201eHajde da probam\u201c.<\/p>\n

Dakle, ovaj projekat te je vratio u gluma\u010dke vode.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Valois:<\/strong> Da, da.<\/p>\n

Nahuel, ti si iz Argentine. Savladao si francuski pre 6-7 godina?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Nahuel P\u00e9rez Biscayart: <\/strong>Nau\u010dio sam francuski pre 6 godina.<\/p>\n

To je neverovatno.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Biscayart: <\/strong>Pa, dobio sam ulogu u francuskom filmu, za koji je re\u017eiser tra\u017eio glumca koji bi mogao da govori dijalektom smi\u0161ljenim posebno za film. Moj akcenat je bio savr\u0161en za to, ba\u0161 zato \u0161to je bio o\u010dajan \u2013 zvu\u010dao sam kao poludivlji de\u010dak iz \u0161ume. Nisam znao ni re\u010d francuskog. Odlu\u010dio sam da ostanem u Parizu na 3 meseca za premijeru filma i poha\u0111ao sam \u010dasove svakog dana, 8 sati dnevno. Onda se ispostavilo da sam po\u010deo da glumim u Francuskoj. Ali ne odmah! Posle toga sam snimao filmove u Italiji, \u0160paniji, Nema\u010dkoj\u2026 Drugi jezici, druga mesta.<\/p>\n

Da li si tako\u0111e glumio na italijanskom i nema\u010dkom?\"\"<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Biscayart: <\/strong>Da. Pomalo sam lud. Jednostavno sam shvatio da mogu da nau\u010dim jezik i glumim na njemu.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Valois: <\/strong>Zna\u0161, to je kao muzika. Kao melodija. Pomalo je druga\u010dije pri\u010dati i glumiti.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Biscayart: <\/strong>Samo pogledaj moje scenarije. Izgledaju kao partiture.<\/p>\n

Robine, to je u vezi sa ne\u010dim \u0161to sam tebe htela da pitam. Film je o\u010digledno ljubavna pri\u010da, ali me je podsetio i na mjuzikal. Ne samo dugi snimci Pariza iz pti\u010dje perspektive, ve\u0107 i scene sa sastanaka ACT UP-a.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Robin Campillo: <\/strong>Da, mislim da sa sam stvarno inspirisan operom. I prva muzika koju sam \u017eeleo da \u010dujem bila je muzika glasova. Trudio sam se da prona\u0111em ljude sa vrlo druga\u010dijim glasovima i na\u010dinima govora. Tako je mnogo raznovrsnije. Volim da unajmljujem strane glumce. On ka\u017ee da ne zna francuski, ali ga savr\u0161eno govori.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Biscayart: <\/strong>Ja sam dobar la\u017eov, zapravo.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Campillo: <\/strong>On la\u017ee o svom francuskom. To je pomalo blesavo, zar ne? No, opera mi se dopada jer su svi ti glasovi ujedinjeni, kao jedno telo. Za ovakav film to je bilo vrlo va\u017eno. Za mene je to poput napolitanske opere, sa svim onim malim ulogama, kao \u201eMonteverdi\u201c<\/em>. Ne pri\u010dam mnogo o tome, ali to je realnost. Film je veoma muzikalan. U operi, kao \u0161to je barokna opera, imate neku vrstu baleta na sredini, \u0161to predstavljaju scene u klubu. Sve je ise\u010deno na komadi\u0107e: Imate arije, onda recitale. Imate sve one velike scene, a kad se one suze na bolni\u010dku sobu, to izgleda kao duet. Volim ovu promenu perspektive.<\/p>\n

Mo\u017eda kao i u operi, imate duet, ovu ljubavnu pri\u010du, ali od po\u010detka znate da je ona tragi\u010dna.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Campillo:<\/strong> Ne bih rekao da je to ljubavna pri\u010da, to je preveliko za mene. Samo pri\u010da. Avantura. Zato \u0161to se sve odvilo prebrzo: par je bio zajedno oko 6 meseci, najvi\u0161e godinu dana. Onda se jedan razboleo, a drugi je imao obavezu da ostane sa njim. Mo\u017eete re\u0107i da je to ljubav, ali nemate vremena da je razmotrite. \u0160onu treba Nejtan isklju\u010dio zbog bolesti. Po\u0161to Nejtan nije bio od pomo\u0107i svom prvom de\u010dku, sada poku\u0161ava da stvari dovede u red, da bude bolji. Zbog toga je vrlo interesantno zapitati se \u2013 \u0161ta je par?<\/p>\n

Dakle, to nije nikakva ljubavna pri\u010da \u2013 oni su samo bili potrebni jedan drugome.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Campillo:<\/strong> Naravno, ali mislim da su ljubavne pri\u010de uvek takve. Zna\u0161, s nekim smo iz razloga koji nisu samo ljubav. To nije ne\u010disto ili ne\u0161to lo\u0161e. To je \u017eivot. Trebaju ti ljudi.<\/p>\n

\u017deleo sam da ka\u017eem i da je veoma zanimljivo imati razli\u010dite vrste glume. Za mene je Nahuel kao barokni glumac. A veoma je te\u0161ko na\u0107i dobre barokne glumce. S druge strane, Arno je mnogo vi\u0161e u sada\u0161njem trenutku. Kontrast izme\u0111u njih je bio veoma va\u017ean. Treba da se razmi\u0161lja o ovakvim stvarima, ali ne previ\u0161e. Na primer u sceni gde su u bolnici i imaju seks. U scenariju je bilo mnogo grublje. Ali onda shvati\u0161 da je to nemogu\u0107e. \u0160on je umoran pa se Nejtan kontroli\u0161e. Milovanje je izgledalo kao da ga Nejtan medicinski neguje.<\/p>\n

Kao maser.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Campillo:<\/strong> Da. Scena je postala mnogo zanimljivija od one koju sam ja zamislio.<\/p>\n

Biscayart: <\/strong>Va\u017eno je imati kalup. Jednom kada je to sastavljeno, mo\u017ee\u0161 da se igra\u0161 ostalim elementima. Mo\u017ee\u0161 da im daje\u0161 vi\u0161e ili manje hrane. Stimuli\u0161e\u0161 ih ili im tra\u017ei\u0161 stvari. Ali ako ima\u0161 prave uloge za igru, rezultat ne mo\u017ee biti neprirodan.<\/p>\n

Kada ka\u017ee\u0161 \u201evi\u0161e ili manje hrane\u201c, podrazumeva\u0161\u2026 gorivo?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Campillo:<\/strong> Ne, inspiraciju. Gorivo, gorivo, gorivo.<\/p>\n

Valois: <\/strong>(smeje se) Za tebe je bilo manje hrane!<\/p>\n

Biscayart:<\/strong> (smeje se) Mo\u017eda govorim o hrani zbog posebnog odnosa koji smo imali tokom snimanja filma.<\/p>\n

Kako si istrpeo ogroman gubitak te\u017eine zbog uloge u filmu?\"\"<\/strong><\/p>\n

Biscayart: <\/strong>\u00a0Bilo je te\u0161ko. Bilo je te\u0161ko jer smo u isto vreme i snimali. Nije kao u Poslovnom klubu Dalas,<\/em> gde je Matthew McConaughey imao 6 meseci da smr\u0161a. Ovde je bilo ovako: odsad pa do kraja snimanja mora\u0161 da mr\u0161avi\u0161. Bio sam slab. De\u0161avalo se da se probudim i da mogu samo da puzim.<\/p>\n

Valois: <\/strong>A ponekad kao da si bio na drogama. Bilo je stvarno napeto.<\/p>\n

Biscayart:<\/strong> Da, stvarno.<\/p>\n

Mani\u010dan?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Biscayart: <\/strong>Hmm, pa da. Posle nekoliko dana je bilo ba\u0161 \u010dudno. Nisi gladan, telo poku\u0161ava da unese kalorije samo iz vazduha. Javlja se \u010dudna stvar, adrenalin. Ima\u0161 energiju.<\/p>\n

O, kao kad posti\u0161. Pomalo je misti\u010dno.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Biscayart: <\/strong>Upravo tako. Ali ose\u0107aj ne traje dugo jer snima\u0161 12 sati dnevno. Da sam samo meditirao po ceo dan, bilo bi super! Ali kada mora\u0161 da igra\u0161 12 sati, u no\u0107nom klubu, tokom dana\u2026!<\/p>\n

Ovo se odvija 1992. godine, u periodu \u010dija se moda i muzika vra\u0107aju na velika vrata<\/strong><\/p>\n

Biscayart: <\/strong>Kada smo upoznali Ariela, mladi\u0107a koji glumi momka koji umire prvi, bio je kao iz devedesetih!<\/p>\n

Razgovarala:<\/strong> Mirijam Bejl<\/em><\/p>\n

Film \u201e120 otkucaja u minuti\u201c bi\u0107e prikazan u okviru devetog Merlinka festivala 9. decembra u 21:00 u Velikoj sali Doma omladine Beograda i nakon projekcije bi\u0107e organizovan razgovor sa re\u017eiserom Robinom Campillom.\"\"<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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