{"id":4838,"date":"2017-06-21T01:04:25","date_gmt":"2017-06-21T09:04:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/?p=4838"},"modified":"2017-06-21T01:15:51","modified_gmt":"2017-06-21T09:15:51","slug":"zasto-srbija-ima-dva-prajda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/zasto-srbija-ima-dva-prajda\/","title":{"rendered":"Za\u0161to Srbija ima dva Prajda?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"lead\" class=\"lead leadDetail\">\n<p class=\"hyphenate \">Begrad \u0107e ove godine imati dva Prajda, jedan u junu, drugi u septembru. Zbog \u010dega je nastao novi Prajd, \u0161ta \u0107e nam novo doneti i kako \u0107e izgledati?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"detail\" class=\"detail intext whitelistPremium\">\n<p class=\"hyphenate \">Parada ponosa u Srbiji se ve\u0107 nekoliko godina odr\u017eava u septembru, pod jakom policijskom za\u0161titom. Tako \u0107e biti i ove godine, ali su udru\u017eenja &#8220;Egal&#8221;, &#8220;Loud &amp; Queer&#8221; i &#8220;Gej lezbejski info centar&#8221; odlu\u010dili da svoj Prajd naprave 24. juna, jer je to mesec ponosa u kome se gej parade odr\u017eavaju \u0161irom sveta.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate \">Na razgovor o dva Prajda smo pozvali i organizatore septembarskog, ta\u010dnije Gorana Mileti\u0107a, po\u0161to imena ostalih organizatora javnosti jo\u0161 nisu poznata. Kako nam je rekao, on \u0107e do 26. juna biti van zemlje, a nije nas uputio na ostale organizatore. Kako nam je sam rekao, on i dalje smatra da u Srbiji postoji samo jedan Prajd i to septembarski. Nije mu jasno za\u0161to neko organizuje junski i u tome vidi &#8220;miniranje ve\u0107 tradicionalnog Prajda&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate \">Da li miniraju septembraski Prajd i koja su im o\u010dekivanja i namere, pitali smo Helenu Vukovi\u0107 iz &#8220;Egala&#8221; i Predraga Azdejkovi\u0107a iz udru\u017eenja &#8220;GLIC&#8221;.<\/p>\n<div class=\"interview interviewFirst\">\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Organizatori parade ponosa ka\u017eu da postoji samo jedan Prajd i to je taj njihov. \u0160ta je onda to \u0161to vi organizujete 24. juna?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Pe\u0111a, kad je ono be\u0161e Stounvol?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag: <\/strong>27. juna.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Mislim da je to dovoljan odgovor.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Nije to Evrovizija, nisu to Olimpijske igre, pa da postoje samo jedne koje su od nekoga dobile licencu. Ako je njima to toliko bitno &#8211; jeste, njihov je jedini, najve\u0107i im je, najbolji im je, mnogo im je super. Toliko je super da postoji potreba i za alternativnim.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Za\u0161to postoji taj alternativni?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena: <\/strong>Zbog samih zahteva zajednice. Zajednica je ta koja je merodavna i od koje sve polazi. Masa mojih prijatelja me je pitala za\u0161to u septembru imamo Prajd, kada ga ceo svet ima u junu, mesecu ponosa. Problem je \u0161to ako vi organizujete Prajd u junu, ne\u0107ete mo\u0107i da idete na sve ostale Prajdove, jer \u0107ete biti zauzeti organizacijom svog. Druga stvar je to \u0161to svi znamo da su ljudi u septembru nervozni. Po\u010dela je \u0161kolska godina, potro\u0161ile su se pare na godi\u0161njim odmorima, po\u010dinje fudbalska sezona, tako da vam najmanje treba da neko blokira grad na ceo jedan dan. Da svega toga ne bi bilo, mislim da je normalno da Prajd bude u junu.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Tu naravno postoji i politi\u010dka pri\u010da. Taj Prajd u septembru se pravi za ambasadore, slu\u017ebenike ambasada, politi\u010dare i goste iz inostranstva, kako ja vidim. Pro\u0161le godine smo imali fotografiju iz vazduha na kojoj se videlo oko 300, a najavljivane su hiljade. \u010cemu taj Prajd slu\u017ei, da li je on za zajednicu koja je ovde ili ima sasvim druge ciljeve? Mi vra\u0107amo Prajd zajednici. Mi ga pravimo samo za zajednicu.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Po \u010demu \u0107e se razlikovati od onog septembarskog?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Mi sa svakim Prajdom iznosimo konkretne zahteve kao \u0161to su nulta tolerancija dr\u017eave prema nasilju, profesionalan odnos pripadnika i pripadnica policije prema \u017ertvama, dosledna primena odredbe o zlo\u010dinu iz mr\u017enje od strane tu\u017eila\u0161tva. Zahtev bi bio i omogu\u0107avanje i pojednostavljenje izdavanja dokumenata trans* osobama, primena zakona o zabrani diskriminacije i sprovo\u0111enje strategije o prevenciji za\u0161tite od diskriminacije, \u0161to podrazumeva i pravno regulisanje istopolnih zajednica. Na septembarskom Prajdu je pro\u0161le godine iznet zahtev za stvar koja je ve\u0107 re\u0161ena, \u0161to govori da se oni uop\u0161te nisu ni bavili problemima zajednice su\u0161tinski.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Na septembarskom Prajdu pro\u0161le godine ja uop\u0161te nisam \u010duo te zahteve. Razumem da je to zbog toga \u0161to su se mediji bavili time ko je do\u0161ao na Prajd i koje ulice su zatvorene, pa se negde izgubio pojam \u010demu to slu\u017ei. Junski ne\u0107e imati to breme. Ne\u0107e se zatvarati ulice, nismo zvali politi\u010dare, tako da smo u prvi plan stavili zahteve.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Niste zvali politi\u010dare, a da li ih o\u010dekujete? Pre svega mandatarku Anu Brnabi\u0107, koja je bila na pro\u0161logodi\u0161njem septembarskom Prajdu.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Na Prajd je svako dobrodo\u0161ao, a bilo bi lepo da neko ko je lgbt osoba do\u0111e, bez obzira na kojoj funkciji se nalazi.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">\u0160ta mislite gde \u0107e biti sada\u0161nji predsednik dr\u017eave Aleksandar Vu\u010di\u0107, s obzirom na to da je tokom prethodnih Prajdova obi\u010dno odlazio iz grada?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag: <\/strong>Bi\u0107e u kom\u0161iluku. Mi u Pionirskom parku, a on na Andri\u0107evom vencu. Naravno da ne\u0107e biti na Prajdu, ja ne o\u010dekujem ni Anu, naro\u010dito tokom ove frke oko njenog izbora. Nijedan politi\u010dar nije glavni glumac ovog Prajda, uop\u0161te se ne pravi za njih, niti za ambasadore. Zajednica i njihovi roditelji i prijatelji su oni s kojima \u017eelimo da se dru\u017eimo tog dana.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Na Prajd se ne zove, na Prajd se dolazi. Ukoliko neko smatra da treba da pomogne jednoj marginalizovanoj grupi, on je dobrodo\u0161ao.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Jedna od poruka koja odlazi od organizatora septembarskog Prajda, jeste da vi minirate njihovu paradu, umesto da joj pomognete.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Poziv Goranu Mileti\u0107u da sara\u0111ujemo je poslat, odgovor nikada nismo dobili. Ja sam rekao: &#8216;<a id=\"2da7f91d-aaa5-4406-a878-7772f82f4f5f\" href=\"http:\/\/noizz.rs\/kontra\/putuj-bobane-ne-brini-za-gejeve\/nt6m6lz\">Zlo\u010dinci su oti\u0161li u Kanadu<\/a>, sad mi mo\u017eemo da sara\u0111ujemo&#8217;. To se nije desilo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Mi smo nekoliko puta poku\u0161avali da stupimo u kontakt s &#8220;Belgrade Pride&#8221;. Na pro\u0161li Prajd jedino mi nismo bili pozvani. Meni je bilo preporu\u010deno da ne idem, jer sam predstavnica militantnih snaga. Tada sam se i obratila organizatoru otvorenim pismom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Jedan od glavnih organizatora Adam Pu\u0161kar je opti\u017eio Helenu da je ona bila deo institucije koja je vr\u0161ila ratne zlo\u010dine na Kosovu, samo \u0161to nije stavio znak jednakosti. Kao \u0161to rekoh, ti zlo\u010dini su oti\u0161li u Kanadu i bio je taj zajedni\u010dki sastanak svih lgtb organizacija o tome \u0161ta \u0107emo s Prajdom u septembru, na koji samo mi nismo bili pozvani.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">To je vrlo \u010dudno, posebno ako znamo da je pro\u0161logodi\u0161nji Prajd nosila organizacija kojoj lgbt pitanja nisu u fokusu.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Nijedna lgbt organizacija nema kapacitet da organizuje Prajd te veli\u010dine, s binom, kamionom, balonima. Zato su oni uzeli &#8220;Inicijativu mladih za ljudska prava&#8221; da odradi sve. Mi mo\u017eemo da ka\u017eemo da ta NVO organizuje Prajd i to je nepobitna istina. Interesantno je to da se sad ispita, a za\u0161to se oni time bave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Za\u0161to je onda va\u017eno da imamo dva Prajda?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Verujem da Prajd u septembru zastupa sasvim neke desete ciljeve i da ne zastupa lgbt zajednicu. Zajednica mora da se slu\u0161a i kada kritikuje i kada hvala i kada zahteva. Posao aktivista je da to oslu\u0161kuju. Vi\u0161e od decenije se taj glas ignori\u0161e i drugi Prajd je upravo rezultat toga.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Junski Prajd je inkluzivan. Prihvata sve ljude dobre volje, pogotovu marginalizovane. Kada smo prve godine imali tans Prajd, njega je otvorio predstavnik romske zajednice, pro\u0161le godine je to bila \u017eena \u017ertva nasilja, ove \u0107e to najverovatnije biti \u017eena koja \u017eivi s hendikepom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Imate i zanimljiv poziv na Prajd u vidu navija\u010dke pesme i snimka utakmice izme\u0111u lgbt i trans* tima.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Svi mi za nekoga navijamo, bez obzira na seksualno opredeljenje i rodni indentitet. Ja uvek u \u0161ali ka\u017eem da sam pro\u0161la ispod duge i mnogo mi je lepo, pa zato navijam za dugine boje. Pritom ta fama da su navija\u010di protiv lgbt zajednice je vi\u0161e naduvana, nego istinita. Nama je navija\u010d pisao tu navija\u010dku pesmu.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">\u0160ta mo\u017eemo da o\u010dekujemo od ovog Prajda?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Svi mi o\u010dekujemo da do\u0111e vi\u0161e ljudi, jer je veli\u010dina zaista bitna. Iako se pokazalo da koliko god ljudi iza\u0161lo na ulice, ova vlast to ignori\u0161e, ipak broj pokazuje odre\u0111enu silu. Ja sam u aktivizam u\u0161ao 2000. i mislim da ne mo\u017eemo vi\u0161e da se krijemo iza izgovora kao \u0161to su strah. \u017divot brzo prolazi,\u00a0 ja se bli\u017eim \u010detrdesetoj i jo\u0161 uvek smo po pravima na istom niovu kao kada sam u\u0161ao u ovu pri\u010du. Mi \u010dekamo da neko do\u0111e na belom konju i spasi nas i izbori za nas na\u0161u bitku, a to se ne\u0107e desiti.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> O\u010dekujem da se lepo provedemo. \u017delela bih da se desi ono \u0161to se desilo pro\u0161le godine na na\u0161em Prajdu, kada smo mi i\u0161li jednom saobra\u0107ajnom trakom, koja je bila zatvorena, a drugom su prolazili automobili i ljudi su nam mahali iz kola.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Ho\u0107emo li na junski Prajd mo\u0107i da ulazimo bez pretresa i narukvica?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Naravno. Mi smo pro\u0161le godine imali situaciju da nas ljudi zovu i pitaju da li je Prajd otkazan, jer nisu videli kordone policije. To i jeste cilj.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> Postoji fotografija od pro\u0161le godine kada je na\u0161 Prajd zaustavljen da bi pro\u0161li pe\u0161aci i jedan otac dr\u017ei dete na ramenima i ma\u0161e nam. Meni je to fenomenalno, septembarski se de\u0161ava u tampon zoni, gde ne mo\u017ee ni muva da pro\u0111e. \u010citava pri\u010da o mr\u017enji i nasilju je prenaduvana. Ako ho\u0107emo da se poredimo sa svetskim centrima i u njima se de\u0161ava nasilje. Orlando se desio u Americi, ali je je tamo lgbt zajednica odlu\u010dila da \u017eivi slobodno, bez obzira na sve.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Kako vam je policija dozvolila da organizujete takav Prajd, a za septembarski izvode kordone i prave nekoliko prstenova za\u0161tite?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Zato \u0161to tako ukazuju bezbednosne procene. To je ono \u0161to sam na po\u010detku rekla, jun je mnogo bezbedniji, a \u0161to je najva\u017enije, jun je mesec ponosa, \u0161ta vam nije jasno?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate question \">Za\u0161to osoba koja je pro\u010ditala na\u0161 razgovor treba da do\u0111e na Prajd?<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Predrag:<\/strong> O\u010dekujem da do\u0111u lgbt osobe, to vidim kao njihovu radnu obavezu. O\u010dekujem i njihove prijatelje i porodice, koje \u017eele da na taj na\u010din olak\u0161aju \u017eivot nekog kog vole i pru\u017ee mu podr\u0161ku.<\/p>\n<p class=\"hyphenate answer \"><strong>Helena:<\/strong> Mi smo u maju imali <a id=\"74ad5c1b-9388-48f9-9e78-2552cbd44c13\" href=\"http:\/\/noizz.rs\/noizz-news\/trans-osoba-pretucena-u-centru-beograda\/v0fdj6r\">nekoliko napada na trans* osobe<\/a>. Zamilite da su Leona, Lela ili Nata\u0161a va\u0161e sestre, drugarice, ro\u0111ake i da su pretu\u010dene. Danas one, sutra neko drugi. Mora tome da se stane na put.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"hyphenate \">Za njihova prava koja zaslu\u017euju po svim ustavnim i ljudskim zakonima mi \u0107emo 24. iza\u0107i na ulicu. A vi?<\/p>\n<p><em>Razgovarao: Petar Paunovi\u0107<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Izvor: <a href=\"https:\/\/noizz.rs\/intervju\/zasto-srbija-ima-dva-prajda\/nykxcy6\">Noizz<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"contentShare contentShareBottom \" data-run-module=\"local\/main.trigger_menu_bottom\" data-run-module-isrun=\"1\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Begrad \u0107e ove godine imati dva Prajda, jedan u junu, drugi u septembru. Zbog \u010dega je nastao novi Prajd, \u0161ta \u0107e nam novo doneti i kako \u0107e izgledati? 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