{"id":11752,"date":"2020-05-18T23:47:02","date_gmt":"2020-05-19T07:47:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/?p=11752"},"modified":"2020-05-18T23:48:46","modified_gmt":"2020-05-19T07:48:46","slug":"kako-je-nastala-prva-domaca-pesma-sa-gej-tematikom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gayecho.com\/news\/kako-je-nastala-prva-domaca-pesma-sa-gej-tematikom\/","title":{"rendered":"Kako je nastala prva doma\u0107a pesma sa gej tematikom"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pre 40 godina osnovan je bend De\u010daci, koji je ubrzo promenio naziv u VIS Idoli, a ve\u0107 na prvoj probi benda, koji su \u010dinili Vlada Divljan, Zdenko Kolar, Sr\u0111an \u0160aper, Neboj\u0161a Krsti\u0107 i Bo\u017ea Jovanovi\u0107, nastala je njihova kontroverzna pesma \u201eRetko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama\u201d. Oni koji su tada vodili ra\u010duna o moralnoj \u010distoti dru\u0161tva nisu prepoznali u tekstu gej tematiku.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; I odmah je zvu\u010dala dobro. Na drugu probu do\u0161ao je Dragan Papi\u0107, na\u0161 kreativni medijator, i nije mogao da veruje \u0161ta se de\u0161ava. Od momenta kad smo po\u010deli s probama, krajem februara 1980, do momenta kad smo snimili prvu plo\u010du pro\u0161lo je neverovatnih mesec dana. Papi\u0107 je sa \u201eVidicima\u201d ugovorio da nam finansiraju snimanje plo\u010de u studiju Enca Lesi\u0107a &#8211; pri\u010dao je Vlada Divljan o tom periodu. Ovaj singl na kome su bile njihove pesme \u201ePomo\u0107, pomo\u0107 \/ Retko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama\u201c pojavio se u prodavnicama u junu 1980. i to kao poklon uz \u010dasopis \u201eVidici\u201c. Bio je to jedan od prvih nezavisnih singlova u SFRJ. Od tada provokativni stihovi: \u201eRetko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama \/ A vi\u0111am te svaki dan \/ Retko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama \/ Ipak nikad nisi sam \/ Oko tebe su de\u010daci \/ Fini su al\u2019 ipak znaj \/ Glasine se brzo \u0161ire \/ A kad puknu tu je kraj\u201d nezaobilazna su referenca pri svakom osvrtu na istoriju LGBT elemenata u jugoslovenskoj pop kulturi.<\/p>\n<p>Muzi\u010dki kriti\u010dar Petar Janjatovi\u0107 se\u0107a se da tada u javnosti nije bilo nekih kontroverznih reakcija na pesmu.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Oni koji su vodili ra\u010duna o moralnoj \u010distoti dru\u0161tva nisu prepoznali u tekstu pesme gej tematiku. Uostalom, ne zaboravite, u to vreme u na\u0161em dru\u0161tvu nije postojalo ne\u0161to \u0161to se zove gej problematika. Ako je i bilo onih koji su to prepoznali u stihovima, oni time nisu hteli da se bave, da ne bi pesmi pravili dodatnu reklamu &#8211; ka\u017ee Janjatovi\u0107 za &#8220;Blic&#8221;, dodaju\u0107i da se njemu li\u010dno numera veoma svidela.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Savr\u0161en hit &#8211; Retko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; U pitanju je besprekorna pesma. Dobro sa\u0161iven hit singl od tri minuta. To se videlo i na koncertima Idola na kojima sam bio, s obzirom na to da je kod publike, ne ra\u010dunaju\u0107i \u201eMalj\u010dike\u201c koji su izazivali ludilo, nai\u0161la na odli\u010dan odziv &#8211; isti\u010de Janjatovi\u0107.<\/p>\n<p>On podse\u0107a i da \u201eRetko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama\u201c nije prva pesma na ovim prostorima koja se bavila gej tematikom, s obzirom na to da je pre Idola sastav Prljavo kazali\u0161te objavilo pesmu \u201eSome Boys\u201c.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Divljan je u svojoj pesmi to uradio na elegantan na\u010din. Rekao je mnogo toga, a opet i ni\u0161ta&#8230; Briljantno! &#8211; navodi Janjatovi\u0107.<\/p>\n<p>Sr\u0111an Gojkovi\u0107 Gile, frontmen Elektri\u010dnog orgazma i blizak prijatelj Vlade Divljana, ka\u017ee da se u to vreme, pre 40 godina, Idolima de\u0161avalo isto \u0161to i njegovom bendu, kao i sastavu \u0160arlo akrobata. Kada je prvi put \u010duo pesmu \u201eRetko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama\u201c, svidela mu se.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Ta pesma je bila u duhu svega onoga \u0161to smo svi mi u to vreme radili. Da li je bila kontoverzna, zavisi od toga kako je shvatate, jer nije nu\u017eno da se pesma doti\u010de gej tematike &#8211; pri\u010da Gile, dodaju\u0107i da mu je od samih stihova numere daleko zanimljivi bio Vladin gitarski rif.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Kao i sve najbolje Vladine pesme, i ova ima vi\u0161e zna\u010denja. I nikako se ne mo\u017ee re\u0107i da se \u201eRetko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama\u201c \u010disto bavi gej problematikom. Ta pesma je jo\u0161 jedan od dokaza da je Vlada jedan od najzna\u010dajnijih autora na ovim prostorima. Mislim da \u0107e njegov uticaj kao tekstopisca, kompozitora, aran\u017eera i glavne kreativne snage Idola trajati jo\u0161 dugo &#8211; zaklju\u010duje Gile.<\/p>\n<p><strong>De\u010daci uburkanih hormona<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Muzi\u010dki krit\u010dar Mom\u010dilo Rajin isti\u010de da se rokenrol muzika u svojoj biti, osim visokog komercijalnog potencijala, nikada nije odrekla elementa provokacije. Ba\u0161 taj element ju je, ka\u017ee, oduvek najvi\u0161e pribli\u017eavao umetni\u010dkim idejama i postupcima.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Ponekad su te veze bile o\u010digledne, ponekad skrivene. Idoli su tokom svoje karijere nastojali da te veze u\u010dine \u0161to vidljivijim. Jedinstvo nove forme sa provokativnim sadr\u017eajem najo\u010diglednije su demonstrirali na svom, i klju\u010dnom albumu s ovih prostora \u201eOdbrana i poslednji dani\u201d. Ali, gledano unazad, sa provokacijama su krenuli od samog starta. Ve\u0107 sa prvim singlom objavljenom u skromnom tira\u017eu za tada\u0161nji omladinski \u010dasopis \u201eVidici\u201d &#8211; podse\u0107a Rajin, i dodaje:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; \u201eRetko te vi\u0111am sa devojkama\u201d nije do\u017eiveo op\u0161tu aklamaciju. Retko je bio prisutan u tada\u0161njim medijima. S jedne strane, komunisti\u010dka elita nikada nije blagonaklono gledala na bilo \u0161ta \u0161to je ne podupire, a s druge, de\u010daci uzburkanih hormona nisu ba\u0161 bili spremni da se udubljuju u tuma\u010denje stilskih figura. Ostale su devojke, najverniji navija\u010di Idola od po\u010detka do kraja. Redovno u prvim redovima na njihovim nastupima. Zaljubljeno zagledane, ne skidaju\u0107i osmeh sa lica. Pri\u017eeljkuju\u0107i bliski susret. \u0160to \u010de\u0161\u0107e\u2026 &#8211; isti\u010de Mom\u010dilo Rajin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pesma o autsajderima<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I sam Vlada Divljan, autor ove pesme, \u010desto je bio pitan za zna\u010denje ovih stihova.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Iako je tada gej pokret iza\u0161ao na svetlost, ovo nije pesma o tome, ve\u0107 o momku koji nema sre\u0107e sa devojkama &#8211; glasio je jedan od njegovih odgovora.<\/p>\n<p>Sr\u0111an \u0160aper je u jednom od intervjua objasnio da je ta pesma nastala sa neizgovorenom \u017eeljom za osvajanjem prostora slobode.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Koliko god da je Jugoslavija u mnogo \u010demu bila moderna, zapravo je bila u intelektualnom smislu opresivna. Postojala je ogromna cenzura i autocenzura. Danas, ljudi ne mogu da zamisle da je osvajati tu vrstu slobode bio poprili\u010dan poduhvat. To je bio na\u0161 izazov, hajde da bacimo rukavicu u lice svima, pa da vidimo \u0161ta \u0107e biti &#8211; kazao je \u0160aper.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.optimist.rs\/nesudeni-kum-parade-ponosa-nebojsa-krstic\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neboj\u0161a Krsti\u0107 je na ovu temu govorio za magazin \u201eOptimist\u201d<\/a>, kada je istakao da to uop\u0161te nije bila gej stvar, niti je nastala sa sve\u0161\u0107u o tome da je i takvo \u010ditanje pesme mogu\u0107e.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; U su\u0161tini, pesma govori o ljudima kakvi smo mi bili, a bili smo \u0161treberi, ne naro\u010dito prilago\u0111eni vremenu\u2026 danas bi se reklo &#8211; nismo bili kul. Bila je to samoironi\u010dna pesma o nama, autsajderima. U me\u0111uvremenu je dobila status gej himne i ja li\u010dno nemam ni\u0161ta protiv toga &#8211; zaklju\u010dio je Krsti\u0107. Ina\u010de, ova pesma se toliko svidela Goranu Bregovi\u0107u, da je on producirao verziju za B-stranu singla \u201eMalj\u010diki\u201d koji je izdao \u201eJugoton\u201d 1981. godine, a tada su Idoli morali da ovoj, tako\u0111e poznatoj pesmi promene tekst koji je glasio: \u201eKakane zore, bude me iz sna; Kakana jutra, kakan sam i ja\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Izvor: Noizz.rs<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"440\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xjymct00JRo\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pre 40 godina osnovan je bend De\u010daci, koji je ubrzo promenio naziv u VIS Idoli, a ve\u0107 na prvoj probi benda, koji su \u010dinili Vlada Divljan, Zdenko Kolar, Sr\u0111an \u0160aper, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":11753,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[14,12],"tags":[65,225,28,80],"class_list":["post-11752","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-muzika","category-umetnost","tag-muzika","tag-noizz","tag-srbija","tag-video"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - 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